Ep 167: Joseph Scott Morgan Joins Jill

 

EPISODE 167: Joseph Scott Morgan joins Jill 

Joseph Scott Morgan, and THIS is Body Bags!

Recording with Joseph Scott Morgan!

Demonstrating the 8 Crochet-Ladies at Crimecon 2025!

GOOD TIMES!

Joseph's favorite book- Spitz and Fischer's Medicolegal Investigation of Death! 

Screenshot of Spitz and Fisher's!

What a pleasure chatting w. Joseph! Check out BODY BAGS!

Buy Blood Beneath My Feet by Joseph Scott Morgan on AMAZON and BARNES AND NOBLE

Hanging out at Crimecon w. Joseph. 

Kimmie, Joseph's remarkable wife, is a giving, loving woman whom I adore!

Oh, having some great times together!

Hamptons Whodunit 2026- Solving Cold Cases!

SOURCES EP 167

Body Bags Podcast, CrimeOnLine, May 2026

Joseph Scott Morgan, Blood Beneath My Feet, Feral House, July 2012.

Spitz and Fisher Medicolegal Investigation of Death, BooksRun.com, May 2026.

($27.00!)

Spitz and Fisher Medicolegal Investigation of Death, InternetArchives.com, May 2026. (Login & Borrow).

Werner U. Spitz and Fisher, Spitz and Fisher's Medicolegal Investigation of Death: Guidelines for the Application of Pathology to Crime Investigation, Charles C. Thomas Pub, 5th Edition, Amazon.com, July 2020. ($119.99!)

Ep 166-170: Alessandro Gallici Prosecco with a delicious Tex-Mex Queso Recipe!

 

Laithwaite Wine Club's Alessandro Gallici Prosecco

Prettiest bottle too!

Dallas's CLASSIC TEX-MEX QUESO 

INGREDIENTS!

2 tablespoons unsalted butter

½ medium onion chopped, about ½ cup

2 jalapeños fresh, seeded and chopped (removing the seeds and ribs decreases the heat significantly)

3 cloves garlic minced

1 tablespoon Serrano chiles pickled, (optional)

1 cup cherry tomatoes halved

1 13 oz. can evaporated milk

2 tablespoon corn starch

1 cup water

½ lb American cheese yellow, grated

½ lb American cheese white, grated

1 teaspoon ground cumin

¼ teaspoon onion powder

¼ teaspoon black pepper freshly ground

½ teaspoon Kosher salt

1 4.5 oz can green chiles

1 tablespoon cilantro fresh, chopped

Pico de Gallo for garnish

Tortilla chips for dipping

DIRECTIONS

1. Heat the unsalted butter in a large skillet over medium heat.

2. Add the onion, jalapeños, and garlic and cook until softened, about 3 minutes.

3. Add the pickled Serrano peppers (if using) and tomatoes, and cook just until tomatoes begin to break down, about 3 more minutes.

4. In a medium bowl, add the corn starch to the evaporated milk and whisk until dissolved and incorporated. Whisk in the water and add it to the veggies in the skillet.

5. Stir with a wooden spoon until just starting to thicken.

6. Add in the cheese and stir until completely melted.

7. Stir in the cumin, onion powder, pepper, salt, green chilies, and cilantro. Bring to just a simmer and let cook for a couple of minutes.

8. Transfer to a warmed bowl or small slow-cooker and top with Fresh Pico de Gallo and warmed tortilla chips.

Thank you, Kris Longwell and HowTOFeedALoon.com for this incredible recipe! 

Ep 166-170: The Caregiver's Game: Unraveling Financial Deceit in the Shadows of Dementia by Charles E. Wallace

 

Note: That is the portrait that was commissioned when Joell was a young woman!

Joell Fleming 

Buy The Caregiver's Game on Amazon!

Elder Justice, National Center on Elder Abuse

LISTEN TO THE CAREGIVER'S GAME TRILOGY! 

Muskogee Daily Phoenix, June 11, 1960

Wedding announcement- Joell Fink to Charles E. Wallace Sr.

Daily Oklahoman Aug 4, 1962

SOURCES

Briana Smith, Philly caregiver accused of stealing $5K from 2 clients in Montco, 6ABC Action News.com, Nov. 6, 2025.

AZ Caregiver accused of stealing from patients, Fox10.com, Jan. 9, 2026. 

Charles E Wallace Jr., The Caregiver's Game: Unraveling Financial Deceit in the Shadows of Dementia, Nov 22, 2025.

22 Clues to Dementia, The Dementia Society of America, Dec 20, 2021.

Charles E Wallace Jr, The Caregiver's Game, 2025.

Elizabeth Greenwood, Playing Dead: A Journey Through the World of Death Fraud,  Aug. 15, 2017. 

Emmit Pierce, Playing a risky game: People who fake death for big money, MoneyTalksNews, CBSNews.com, Sept. 5, 2017.

Former caregiver accused of stealing from senior living patient, 81, charged with 20 felonies, WSB, Feb. 27, 2025. 

Former Ohio caregiver accused of stealing from elderly woman, selling her vehicle, WKRC.com, Nov. 2, 2025. 

Ivan Taylor, Neighbors' vigilance exposes caretaker's alleged scheme to drain Plantation man's life savings, CBSNews.com, Sept. 2, 2025. 

Joell Fleming Obituary, Dallas Morning News, 2022.

Joey Swanson, Florida caregiver accused of stealing nearly $100K from elderly patient, Fox 13 News, March 3, 2026. 

Kris Longwell, Classic Tex-Mex Queso, HowToFeedALoon.com, Jan. 3, 2023.

What to know about dementia and setting up a power of attorney for healthcare, Medical News Today, 2026.

Whitney Ray, Caregiver exploiting Senior for Thousands, Office of the Attorney-General, Florida, Feb. 23, 2023. 

SWANS DON'T SWIM IN A SEWER CHANGES THE TRUE CRIME NARRATIVE ~ BOOK REVIEW

 

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EP 145: Listen to Sheryl 'Mac' McCollum and Jill discuss Swans Don't Swim In A Sewer

Book Review

Melissa Wolfenbarger was murdered, and it took years for this tragedy to be acknowledged. When her family sought help, cold case investigator Sheryl "Mac" McCollum stepped in to assist them in uncovering the truth about what happened to their daughter, who happened to be the child of a serial killer serving a life sentence. 

I have read many true crime books, most of which are written by lawyers, investigators, authors, or journalists. These works typically explore the evidence, interrogations, forensics, and the journey through the court system to achieve justice. This particular book follows that pattern but differs in a significant way. 

From the very beginning, it centers on the family, focusing on Melissa Wolfenbarger's parents and sister. Sheryl encourages readers to look beyond the two-dimensional portrayal of Carl Patton, a serial killer who is also a grieving father of a murdered child. Presenting this perspective is a remarkable achievement and exemplifies the magic of good storytelling. A critical thread throughout the narrative is that Carl Patton committed multiple murders and faced the consequences of his actions. Equally important is the focused effort to gather facts, conduct interviews, and collect evidence to bring Melissa Wolfenbarger’s murderer to justice, all while treating her family with compassion. 

Cold cases are inherently challenging, and this book emphasizes that sharing information with the families at the center of the story is crucial. A simple 20-second update from an investigator or assistant district attorney can have a profound impact on the lives of a victim’s family and dramatically alter their world—a truth that carries significant weight. "Swans Don’t Swim in a Sewer" is a standout piece of literature and deserves a place on the shelves of every true crime enthusiast.

Ep 165: Dark Tide- Growing Up With Ted Bundy by Edna Cowell Martin and Megan Atkinson

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Author Edna Cowell Martin, Ted Bundy's cousin. 

 

EP 164 Dog 'O War by Aphrodite Jones

 

Listen to Ep 164 on Dog O'War by Aphrodite Jones 

Buy Aphrodite Jones's Dog O'War on Amazon!

Jill and Aphrodite Jones at the Hamptons Whodunit, April 2026

Diane Alexis Whipple- Wikipedia

Mug Shot Paul Schnieder 

SOURCES

Aphrodite Jones, Dog O'War, April 7, 2026.

David Barry, Descent into Darkness, Southern Poverty Law Center, June 18, 2002.

Jaxon VanDerbeken, S.F. Lawyers Adopt Con Who Bred Killer Dog/Action by animal's keepers stuns state correction officials, SFGate.com, Jan. 31, 2001.

Jaxon VanDerbeken, Prison Gang Duo Linked to Dog that Killed Woman, SFgate.com, Jan. 30, 2001.

Katie Dowd, Woman whose dogs killed Diane Whipple denied parole, Sfgate.com, Feb. 15, 2026. 

Kim Curtis, Evidence Unsealed in Dog-Mauling case, ABCNews.com, March 29, 2001. 

Kim Curtis, Judge Oks bail cut for woman who figures in fatal dog attack, Venture County Star, Sept. 1, 2001.

Lawyer for Knoller asks court to overturn dog-maul murder conviction, Fox2 WKVU, Nov 16, 2015.

Lucia Graves, Two Dogs, a Death, and the Trial that made Kimberly Guilfoyle a Television Star, Medium.com, Nov. 3, 2020.

Man Tied to attack adopted, The Californian, Jan 31, 2001.

Parole denied to attorney serving life sentence in San Francisco dog mauling, Los Angeles Times, Feb 8, 2019.

Ron Harris, Court Hearing Goes to Court, Venture County Star, March, 8, 2001.

The Diane Whipple Case, Dog Bite Law.com, 2026.

Woman gets at least 15 years for fatal dog attack, NBCNews.com, Sept 22, 2008.

EP 163: Shadows in Fire by Judith A. Yates

 

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Listen to Episode 163 to Jill's interview with Judith about this amazing book, Shadows in Fire!

Irma Grese book by Judith Yates

Books by Judith A. Yates on AMAZON

Judith A. Yates Page

SOURCES

Brian Dwyer, Woman who killed 2 children moved out of prison: 'I'm worried about it,' Onondaga County DA says, Spectrum News1.com, May 14, 2024. 

Darian Stevenson, Central NY child killer moved to psych facility because doctors rule she's danger to herself or others, Syracuse.com, May 29, 2024.

Megan Coleman, Shirley Winters Sentenced, CYNCentral.com, June 17, 2008.

Shirley Winters Photos, Murderpedia.com, 2026. 

Shirley Winters, serial killer and arsonist, moved from prison, NewChannel9 WSYR, Syracuse, 2025.

Winters sentenced for son's death, CYNCentral.com, June 17, 2008.