Ep 189, 191, 193 & 195 - Fatal Lunch by Cheryl Warren

Listen to Jill's trilogy on Fatal Lunch and an interview with author Cheryl Warren!
CLICK!  Ep 189, 191, 193 and 195!

Remembering Don Patterson, Gail Patterson, Heather Wilkinson, and survivor Ian Wilkinson (The Guardian, June 3, 2025)

Buy Fatal Lunch: The Death Cap Mushroom Murders by Cheryl Warren on AMAZON and BookShop.org

Diagram of an Australian Courtroom (VicGov.au)

You can reach U.S. Poison Control Centers for emergency poisoning or questions about mushrooms at 1-800-222-1222 or PoisonHelp.org.

Lifespan of the 'Death Cap' Mushroom

The death cap grows from an underground 'Volva' which is a HUGE red flag!   (Adoph Cezka)

www.mushroom-appreciation.com

INFO-SHEET ON DEATH CAP MUSHROOMS

The trial of Erin Patterson was held in Morwell, Victoria, Australia

Travel: From Erin Patterson's home in Leongatha, to Loch and Outtrim, locations where death cap mushrooms were cited on iNaturalist.org

Video: Erin Patterson speaks to the press. Australian.com 2023.
What do you think?

iNaturalist.org-  Map of death cap mushrooms in Victoria, Australia Sept 2026. 

iNaturalist.org- Map of death cap mushrooms in the United States. 

Click to zoom into your area. 

The 'Poison.pdf' that Erin controversially downloaded in 2019.

SOURCES

Ally Foster, Mushroom chef's ex-husband reaches out to locals after nearly dying from mystery illness last year, News.com.au, August 11, 2023. 

Adeshola Ore and Nino Bucci, Mushrooms, foraging and venting on Facebook: after weeks of silence, Erin Patterson begins to tell court her side of the story, The Guardian.com, June 3, 2025.

Australian Erin Patterson appeals 3 murder convictions in poison mushroom case, CBSNews.com, August 19, 2026. 

Behavior Panel- Erin Patterson, August 2025. 

Catastrophic' hotel mix-up at the heart of Australia's mushroom murder appeal, BBC.com, August 19, 2026. 

Bill Chappell, Australian police charge a woman with 3 murders in alleged mushroom poisoning, NPC Whyy.com, November 2, 2023. 

Cassie Drumm, Fungi Fear Factor: The Hidden Dangers of Foraging for Mushrooms, Lehigh Valley Health Network, Jefferson Health, 2026.

Cheryl Warren and Leya Booth, Fatal Lunch, June 19, 2026. 

Chris Vedelago, Marta Pascual Juanoia and Carla Jaeger, Erin Patterson and the art and science of poison, The Age.com, August 8, 2025. 

Death Cap (Amanita phalloides), Woodland Trust, 2026.

Death Cap Mushrooms, BC Centre for Disease Control, 2026.

Death Cap: The Mushroom Murders, CNN Max, July 2026. 

Erin Patterson Live Stream, Supreme Court, Victoria, Australia, Sept. 29, 2026.

Four dead and three receive liver transplants after eating death cap mushrooms in California, PBSNews.org, February 7, 2025. 

Gold Top Chardonnay, Laithwaites.com, August 2026. 

iNaturalist.org 

Jacinta Bowler, Should iNaturalist hide poisonous mushroom locations after the Erin Patterson trial?, ABC.net.au, July 9, 2025. 

Jasleen Kaur, Srinivasa B. Gokarakonda, & Sunny P. Aslam, Factitious Disorder Overview, National Library of Medicine, July 7, 2025.

John Harris Trestrail III, Criminal Poisoning: Investigational Guide for Law Enforcement, Toxicologists, Forensic Scientists and Attorneys, Humana Press, 2007.

Joni E. Johnston, A Psychological Profile of a Poisoner, Psychology Today, July 9, 2012.

Joni E. Johnston, The Psychological Profile of a Poison Murderer, Medium.com, Sept 25, 2021.

Kate Cantrell, Death Cap Murders portrays Erin Patterson as a woman who craved community- and would 'stop at nothing', The Conversation.com, Sept 16, 2025. 

Mary Ellen O'Toole,The School Shooter: A THREAT ASSESSMENT PERSPECTIVE, National Center for the Analysis of Violent Crime (NCAVC) FBI Academy Quantico, Virginia, 2000.

Mary Ellen O'Toole, The Dangerous Injustice Collector: Behaviors of Someone Who Never Forgets, Never Forgives, Never Lets Go, and Strikes Back, Violence and Gender, 2018.

Mikaela Ortolan and Joseph Dunstan, Remembering mushroom murder victims, Gail and Don Patterson and Heather Wilkinson, ABCNews.com, July 9, 2026.

Mushroom Hunting Safety, Cascadia Mycological Society, Sept 2026. 

Mushroom killer must stay in jail for 'truly dreadful' crime, prosecutors tell appeal court, BBC.com, August 18, 2026.

Outbreak of Severe Illness and Deaths Linked to Ingestion of Poisonous Wild Mushroom- May 2026 Update, California Dept of Public Health, May 2026.

Poisonous Mushroom Species, Mushroom Appreciation, 2026.

Rachel Treisman, A woman who killed her in-laws with toxic mushrooms allegedly poisoned her spouse too, NPRS.com, Aug. 8, 2025. 

Ripu Blata, Psychologist: I know the mushroom murderer's personality type, and I know why she did it, Stuff.com.nz, July 7, 2025. 

Sarah K. Tracey and Thomas R. Brooks, Staying Under the Radar: Poison and the Female Serial Killer, Dept. of Psychology, New Mexico Highlands University, August 2, 2025. 

Sutton Landau, Fatal Invitation: The Erin Patterson Murders, September 21, 2025.

Tiffany Page, Cheesy bacon and Creamed Corn Cob Loaf Dip, Best Recipes-Australia, Dec. 15, 2021.

Tiffanie Turnbull and Simon Atkinson, 'Half alive': Toxic mushroom lunch survivor tells court of murders impact, BBC.com, August 25, 2025. 

Victims of Crime, VicGov.Au, Aug 2026.

Cob Loaf Dip, an Australian Appetizer & wine pairing (Ep 189-196- Fatal Lunch)

 

Cheesy bacon and creamed corn cob loaf dip

by Tiffany Page

from Best Recipes- Australia! 

INGREDIENTS

200 g bacon, finely chopped (1.2 lb.)

2 spring onion, thinly chopped

250 g cream cheese (9 ounces)

200 g sour cream (3/4 cup)

100 g grated mozzarella cheese (3.5 ounces)

100 g Swiss cheese (3.5 ounces)

400 g can creamed corn (3 1/4 cups)

1 cob loaf, lid removed and cob hollowed out

2 Tbsp rice bran oil (Canola Oil)

1 tsp sea salt

1 clove garlic, halved

 DIRECTIONS

Step 1
Preheat oven to 180 C (350 for American ovens). Cook bacon in a frying pan over a medium heat until crispy. Leave to cool.

Step 2
Beat cream cheese and sour cream until smooth and creamy. Fold in cheeses, creamed corn, spring onion and bacon.

Step 3
Hollow out the inside of the loaf, keeping the breading.  Rub the inside of the cob with the cut side of the halved garlic clove, then discard the clove. Spoon the cheese mixture into the cob and fit with the lid. Wrap in 2 sheets of foil and place on an oven tray. Bake for 45 minutes.

Step 4

Remove from oven; remove foil and discard. Remove the lid from the cob and cut it into chunks. Pull the hollowed-out bread piece and place in a large bowl. 

Pour over the oil and salt, then toss to combine. Arrange around the cob along with the lid chunks. 

Step 5

Return the cob to the oven. Bake for a further 10-15 minutes or until croutons are crisp and golden.

Thank you, Tiffany Page! 

And: Jill is pairing this with the Australian Gold Top Chardonnay 2023 from Jill's favorite wine club, Laithwaites.com! 

Named for Scotland’s creamiest milk—Gold Top—this Australian Chardonnay is a dream come true for lovers of buttery, barrel-aged whites. It’s extra luscious, with layers of plush peach and apricot lifted by bright citrus, with a lush, creamy texture! Sip and swirl, Murder Bookies! 

Ep 188: Serial City: Detroit and the Hunt for Multiple Serial Predators by GH Cliff

 

BUY Serial City: Detroit and the Hunt for Multiple Serial Predators by GH Cliff on AMAZON and BOOKS-A-MILLION!

"School Girl Rapist"

Serial Rapes

Serial Killer John Eric Armstrong

SOURCES

BR Bates and Dr. Gerald Cliff, The Baby Doll Serial Killer: The John Eric Armstrong Homicides, Wildblue Press, Oct. 15, 2024. 

GH Cliff, Serial City: Detroit and the Hunt for Multiple Serial Predators, Wildblue Press, June 30, 2026. 

Kim Kozlowski, David G. Grant, and Darren A. Nichols, Ex-Con Arrested in School rapes, Detroit Free Press, Oct. 31, 1999.

Robin Fornoff, Detroit Free Press, Nov 21, 1990.

Suspected Serial Rapist Arrested, Bay City Times, March 6, 2001.

Suzette Hackney, Jury Hears Slaying Confession, Detroit Free Press, March 4, 2001. 

EP 186: Model Detective by Michele Wood

 

Listen to Ep 186- MODEL DETECTIVE by Michele Wood

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or ABE BOOKS

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• Michele Wood at work- Chicago Police Department 

Chicago Tribune, Aug. 11, 2011

Author of Model Detective Michele Wood

SOURCES

Compose John O'Brien dies, Variety.com, April 23, 2011.

Jeff Hoover, A&E 'Dead Again' star, Homicide Detective Michele Wood, Investigating Cold Cases, WGNTV.com, Feb. 13, 2025. 

Michele Wood, Model Detective, March 23, 2026. 

Michele Wood Fitness Model Interview and Photos,  Shapefit.com, 2026.

Sex, Drugs, and Playboy, The Playboy Murders (Season 3, Ep 5), HBOMax.com, Sept. 2025. 

Judith A. Yates, Irma Grese- Becoming the Hyena of Auschwitz, April 12, 2025.

 

OCTOBER 10, 2026 - FUNDRAISER FOR THE LITTLE THEATER OF WALLA WALLA

Jill's Donation: A merch bag: MSBC tote, coasters, bookmarks, 6 books, wine cups, and bookshelf lantern decor!  

~You like? BID! The auction is virtual too!~

https://app.galabid.com/ltww-wdd2026/items

You can bid on my merch bag, or on any of their other incredible donations that will help the Little Theater of Walla Walla to continue doing the amazing work they do for the community! 

I am delighted to be participating in the 2026 Wine, Dine, and Death Fundraiser in Walla Walla, Washington, the evening of October 10th. Wine, Dine & Death is The Little Theatre of Walla Walla's signature annual fundraising event featuring a silent auction, a seated dinner, local wine, and an interactive murder-mystery performance starring our talented actors. This entertaining evening supports our year-round programming and community outreach efforts.
My merch specialist, Jan, has created a merch bag that will be auctioned off during the live and virtual silent auction. Imagine all the true crime goodies that we've included! YES, signed books are included! 

ALL PROCEEDS GO TO SUPPORT THE LITTLE THEATER OF WALLA WALLA!

The Little Theatre of Walla Walla has brought live theatre to our valley for over 80 years, enriching generations of audiences and volunteers. Each year, we produce four main stage shows, offer summer children’s programming, and host workshops that foster creativity and community for all ages and experience levels.

In addition to our own productions, The Little Theatre proudly supports the larger arts ecosystem throughout the Walla Walla Valley. We regularly share equipment, props, costumes, and volunteer support with fellow schools and organizations—including Whitman College, Walla Walla University, Walla Walla Catholic Schools, Wa-Hi, Sweet Adelines, Choral Society, College Place High School, Walla Walla Adventist School, and the Walla Walla Summer Theater. This spirit of collaboration ensures that creativity can flourish across our region and reinforces our commitment to being a true community resource.

Thanks to the generous support of partners like you, our theatre continues to thrive as a cultural cornerstone in Walla Walla.

https://www.ltww.org/wine-dine-death-fundraiser

EP 184: Ate His Heart: Interviews With A Cannibal by Nathalie von Zelowitz (Translated by Jon von Zelowitz)

 

BUY I Ate His Heart: Interviews With A Cannibal  on Amazon,
Feral House Books, Barnes and Noble,
and Thrift Books.com

French Psychotherapist and author Nathalie Von Zelowitz

(Used with permission)

VIEW THE TRAILER - I ATE HIS HEART! 

Article Gisele Pelicot, referenced by Nathalie von Zelowitz in our discussion! Drugged by her husband, he permitted men to rape his unconscious wife for years! 

The PSYCHOSEXUAL STAGES OF DEVELOPMENT - PSYCHOTHERAPY

During our conversation, Nathalie Von Zelowitz frequently refers to 'Bernard's' experiences as a baby in the oral stage, among others. 

From I Ate His Heart by Nathalie von Zelowitz

From I Ate His Heart by Nathalie von Zelowitz

From I Ate His Heart by Nathalie von Zelowitz

Prison: Château-Thierry (Wikipedia)

Prison: Château-Thierry (Wikipedia)

Prison: Château-Thierry (Wikipedia)

SOURCES

France: Walling Up Madness, Prison Insider.com, April 14, 2022.

France: Psychiatry at the Service of Security, Prison Insider.com, Feb. 24, 2022.

Katharine Ramsland, The Psycho-criminology of Eating People, Substack.com, May 24, 2026

Nick Fagge, Gisele Pelicot's '50' rapist face 600 years in prison, The Daily Mail, Dec 16, 2024.

Prison Psychologist says her cannibal patient is 'shy', Inside Edition, July 2026.

Trailer for... I Ate His Heart: Interviews with a Cannibal by Nathalie von Zelowitz, Feral House, May 2026.

Book Review: I Ate His Heart: Interviews with a Cannibal by Nathalie von Zelowitz

 

Ep 184 - Listen Now!

I Ate His Heart, by French prison psychologist Nathalie von Zelowitz, is a remarkable work of clinical and philosophical nonfiction: disturbing in subject matter, yet unusually thoughtful, humane, and intellectually disciplined in execution. Built around von Zelowitz’s decade-long series of interviews with an incarcerated killer known by the pseudonym Bernard, the book examines one of the darkest imaginable crimes without ever reducing it to spectacle. Instead, von Zelowitz offers a rare, rigorous study of how a mind can arrive at an act that seems almost impossible to comprehend.

The book’s power lies in its refusal to sensationalize. Bernard was found at a gruesome crime scene repeating the phrase “I ate his heart,” yet unlike many perpetrators of extreme violence, he was judged mentally sound, legally sane, and responsible for his actions. That fact gives the book its unsettling force. Von Zelowitz is not writing about madness in any ordinary sense; she is investigating the coherent, if profoundly distorted, internal logic that allowed Bernard to cross the most extreme social and moral boundary.

Von Zelowitz’s greatest achievement is the balance she maintains throughout. She approaches Bernard through psychoanalytic theory, but she does so with clarity rather than jargon. Her interest is not in excusing him, romanticizing him, or turning him into a monster for entertainment. She wants to understand the psychological truth at the core of “passing to the act”: the point at which fantasy, trauma, isolation, desire, and identity collapse into irreversible violence. The result is a study that is both clinically precise and philosophically searching.

What makes the book especially compelling is von Zelowitz’s ethical restraint. She gives Bernard’s words space, but she does not surrender the narrative to him. She listens closely enough to reveal the structure of his thinking, while still preserving the moral gravity of what he did. Just as importantly, she remains respectful of the murdered man, never allowing the victim to disappear behind the psychological fascination of the perpetrator. That sensitivity gives the book a seriousness that many works in the true-crime genre lack.

The prose is controlled, elegant, and deeply unsettling in the best sense: it forces the reader to think rather than merely react. Von Zelowitz shows that Bernard’s crime did not emerge from chaos alone, but from a deeply calculated and coherent inner world shaped by childhood trauma, extreme isolation, and a distorted understanding of human connection. Her analysis makes the book valuable not only for readers interested in criminal psychology, but also for anyone drawn to questions of responsibility, identity, violence, and the limits of empathy.

Overall, I Ate His Heart is an extraordinary and courageous book. It is chilling, cerebral, and morally serious, but also deeply humane in its insistence that understanding is not the same as forgiveness. Von Zelowitz succeeds brilliantly in connecting psychological theory to Bernard’s disorder while maintaining compassion, professionalism, and respect for the victim. For readers with any interest in the psychology of deviance, forensic psychology, psychoanalysis, or the darker edges of human behavior, this book is not merely recommended; it is essential reading.